We wouldn’t want to encourage people to do the dual nickname because then it really would get confusing, but grantdale are sort of “grandfathered in” so to speak. Let’s just consider it part of their charm and leave it at that, ok?

As for autonomy, one does not necessarily speak for the other, rather one or the other may be commenting at any particular time, Grant or Dale.

Back to the topic…

Cheeky, though it doesn’t change the confusing formula of “we” equals Waldo. Though not the rule, in partnerships I have found most to have some s’emblance of autonomy when speaking ones mind.

Cheers

In this very thread they made a humorous comment about their first night together. See if you can find it. It can sort of be like our own Where’s Waldo?

Thanks for your update.

I have read much on this blog, though not all of it where your assertion may be present, and have not seen it stated that he was answering for his partner. Nor did Grantdale himself come forward and clarify upon request. For newbies to come to this sight and assume “we” stands for a couple and not for everyone listening, without explanation in each comment, seems unreasonable. For the sake of newbies and un-regular commenters that do not have privy to your clarification, it can be confusing. I stand by my above statement.

grantdale is a couple. Perhaps you can guess at their names. They use one moniker. When they say we, they are speaking for themselves. They have been posting here much, much longer than you have. Regular commenters aren’t confused.

Thanks for those links. I like what I saw. Regarding you and Haydn, we either hurt or heal with what we do in this world. I am glad to see you are on the healing side.

Also rest assured that as general commenters here in the states, we as a rule comment for ourselves as individuals. For anyone to assume and usurp otherwise as in Grantdale’s case in his comment to you, is a mistake. If you or anyone for that matter had any question, I hope this clears up any potential confusion you and others may have encountered.

Grantdale,

I do not want you to include me in your “we” and/or “our” comments, which is how you came off on the above comment. You sound as though you are attempting to represent the entire room which is not that case. Please “speak for yourself” so as to not cause more confusion.

Byron,

That movie was great. I saw it at the Seattle Film Festival and the room was sold out. Lots of tears for sure.

Robert,

Thanks for that uplifting comment! It really put a smile on my face.

I did recently watch Trembling Before G-d for the first time. It was made in 2001 and came out on DVD in 2003, but I never got to see it. It is less positive than For the Bible Tells Me So, but I found the sincerity and painful humanity very moving. It shows snapshots of the lives and struggles of Gay and Lesbian Orthodox Jews in various stages of coping with what many of them find the contradiction of their lives.

Both are really good resource material if nothing else.

You might find out more about the journey in my autobiography or on our site http://www.freedom2b.org

Really, we’re just a theme song and a wacky neighbor away from being a sitcom.

LOL, that’s cute. A long and happy life to all of you.