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XGW Digest: March 8, 2008

March 8th, 2008
  • Christian wisdom: Let’s encourage gays to destroy themselves by sharing disease
  • More anthropologists weigh in on Focus on the Family’s misrepresentation of “traditional marriage”
  • Gay = Self-Centered. What some in the ex-gay movement think of us:

All of my relational, political, and social needs were defined by a worldview that fed my appetites and met my needs, albeit just temporarily. My world was centered around the idea that the unholy trinity of me-myself-and-I was sufficient to provide vision, inspiration, answers … and even legacy.

I was gay.

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  1. March 8th, 2008 at 11:21 | #1

    All of my relational, political, and social needs were defined by a worldview that fed my appetites and met my needs, albeit just temporarily. My world was centered around the idea that the unholy trinity of me-myself-and-I was sufficient to provide vision, inspiration, answers … and even legacy.

    I was gay.

    Is that why they join self-centered religious groups? The only change appears to be that they can fool a few people into thinking they are straight. Otherwise, the theology and the actions remain the same.

  2. March 8th, 2008 at 11:38 | #2

    Same story we heard from Brown, really: If you don’t share my morality, you don’t have any morality.

  3. Jason D
    March 8th, 2008 at 12:15 | #3

    quite frankly you can follow up this paragraph with just about anything these days and it would make sense:

    ” All of my relational, political, and social needs were defined by a worldview that fed my appetites and met my needs, albeit just temporarily. My world was centered around the idea that the unholy trinity of me-myself-and-I was sufficient to provide vision, inspiration, answers … and even legacy.”

    I was an American.

    I was a teenager.

    I was a democrat.

    I was a republican.

    I was a advertising executive.

    I was an actor.

    I was a lawyer.

    and of course, it goes without saying that all of the things in that list can apply if you have a certain viewpoint on the label in question. Certainly you can put just about any label in there and it would be accurate to someone’s point of view.

    I don’t understand why it’s so important to (certain) Christians that everything and everyone in every aspect of the culture and law agree and reflect their values to the tee.

    God gave us free will. We can choose sin or we can choose salvation (by whatever standards you measure those concepts) if we legislate sin out of existence, doesn’t that sort of defeat the point of having free will in the first place?

  4. Bill Ware
    March 8th, 2008 at 12:40 | #4

    Regarding the first link, I heard that interchange yesterday. Wouldn’t it be better to label it “One Christian’s view”?

    We need to celebrate the diversity in God’s marvelous creation, not condemn those who are simply different than us.

  5. March 8th, 2008 at 12:48 | #5

    Hi, Bill,

    “Christian wisdom” was ironic, since the content of the remark was patently not very Christian. There was no intention to slur all Christians, of which I am one.

  6. William
    March 8th, 2008 at 13:02 | #6

    All of my relational, political, and social needs were defined by a worldview that fed my appetites and met my needs, albeit just temporarily. My world was centered around the idea that the unholy trinity of me-myself-and-I was sufficient to provide vision, inspiration, answers … and even legacy.

    I was a homophobic supporter of Focus on the Family.

  7. March 8th, 2008 at 17:28 | #7

    Well said, William!

  8. March 9th, 2008 at 07:35 | #8

    Ditto!

  9. Funk Republic
    March 18th, 2008 at 01:21 | #9

    William, you were homophobic before you supported Focus on the Family. Trying to say that an organization led you to hold homophobic beliefs tells the world you’re gullible and easily persuaded. Now that you’re not homophobic who are you going to blame for your world-view? I think it’s funny how gays like to paint Christians all the same color just as Christians paint gays all the same color. When we die we find out who was right. I believe in the will of God more than I do in the will of man.

  10. March 18th, 2008 at 01:30 | #10

    Funk Republic,

    Read the original entry above. William is simply reciting his version of what Randy Thomas said, with a little sarcasm to make the point. He isn’t talking about himself.

  11. March 18th, 2008 at 01:43 | #11

    I was a homophobic supporter of Focus on the Family.

    In any case, relax. He said he WAS a homophobic supporter. : )

  12. William
    March 18th, 2008 at 11:17 | #12

    David Roberts is absolutely right, of course: I wasn’t talking about myself, and I would have thought that this was obvious to everyone.

    Nor was I suggesting that an organization (in this instance Focus on the Family) was likely to lead me or anyone else to hold homophobic beliefs. Quite the other way around, in fact: it is more likely that homophobic beliefs or sentiments would lead someone to support Focus on the Family – or one of the many other organizations that use “protecting the family” as a phoney pretext for oppressing gay people.

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