Open Forum: Anti-Gay Diatribe By Oklahoma Representative
In what is described as a small gathering that was apparently not meant for public ears, an Oklahoma State Representative rails on about the “homosexual agenda,” using any number of discredited, Paul Cameron inspired quotes. According to JMBzine.com, the speaker is Rep. Sally Kern, R-Oklahoma City, sponsor of HB 1569 mentioned in the clip.
Claiming that “gays are infiltrating city councils,” she boldly announces that various parts of the nation – Kensington MD, Pittsburgh PA, West Palm Beach FL, and more – are all under the “control” of gays. It takes no imagination to understand the war-like hyperbole she uses. But as if to make certain the point comes across, she continues with this:
I honestly think it’s the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam.
If you’ve ever had doubts as to what is said by some lawmakers about gays behind closed doors, this should help. While many have learned to clean up their act in public, bigotry is a powerful thing. The really sad part is that Rep. Kern must have realized that saying these things would be well received, at least by those constituent present.
In 2004, Rep. Kern was elected with 67.65% of the vote in District 84. Citizens of Oklahoma, for goodness sakes please do not re-elect this woman.
Update: Pams House Blend has a copy of an email Kern sent to a person named Richard who asked her to explain her recorded comments. She apparently agrees with the democratic process as long as the voters agree with her (a gay man is running for a statewide seat).
How about a disgustingly vile anti-trans diatribe from the Denver Gayzette?
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/News/US/Benjamin%20Paige/ben-paige-hi-res.jpg
They issued an apology that did not include any mention of the author of the article, Benjamin Paige, but then quickly took it down off their website.
And people in the south wonder why they are so often portrayed as ignorant morons.
Most of them aren’t, but you wouldn’t know that with people like Miss Kern as their representative.
I think what was more shocking than her words was the silence from the crowd. I heard NO ONE gasp, no mutterings, nothing resembling a countrarian viewpoint.
Was it an article or a letter to the editor/comment?
One hateful, false generalization deserves another? I’m surprised you didn’t say “some of my best friends are from the South.” Bigotry knows no regional boundaries.
Was it an article or a letter to the editor/comment?
It was an article from a regular columnist.
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/News/US/Gayzette%20defames%20trans%20child.html
If I understood Jason correctly, he was acknowledging that the “ignorant moron” stereotype was a false perception, stemming from a minority of southerners (like Rep Kern) who give the rest a bad name. He did say quite clearly that the majority aren’t ignorant.
David, chill out and READ what I wrote.
Or, I can just point out what I said to you:
I said people in the south wonder why they are so often PORTRAYED (as in represented) as ignorant morons.
Now, notice that I used the word “portrayed” meaning that what is true may not be what we see, that’s part of the point I was making, David.
next I said:
Most of them aren’t.
Huh, if I’m making hateful generalizations, why’d I say that most of the south isn’t ignorant morons? Hmm? Think about that for just a moment.
Now if I was making a hateful and false generalization, believe me, I’d make it, I’d say something along the lines of “Just like a southerner.”
But I didn’t, I chose carefully words that displayed an opinion that is quite well backed by the YouTube video in other words, I think Miss Kern is an ignorant moron.
Just so you know what I mean, buy ignorant, I mean not knowing. I’m ignorant to French, because I never learned to speak it. Ignorant is not necessarily a hateful word.
As to “moron”, wikipedia, for example, has this to say”describe a person with a mental age located between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale. ”
Now, someone who calls me a terrorist just because they don’t approve of my relationship(as if it’s any of their business) is behaving chidishly in my mind, so yeah, I think moron applies.
David, now even if I was just tossing out insults instead of carefully picked words, so what? Miss Kern has no respect for me, if she did she wouldn’t be slandering me in front of a crowd. Now, given that, why on earth should I give her any in return, especially in a forum she will probably never read?
And no, some of my best friends aren’t from my south, but my family is. I spent many summers in a trailer on the outskirts of Tulsa. Not that it’s ANY of your business.
Replace Southerners with gays or blacks, and see if that holds up. I’m not saying Jason is a bad person, I’m saying that it’s all too easy for us to fall into bigotry. And I did find a statement like that in response to a subject like this rather ironic.
That’s just my opinion, I think it was an inappropriate comment. Oddly enough, Oklahoma would be considered Midwest anyway, so why are we talking about stereotypes about people from the South in the first place?
Wow, so quick to defend our detractors when they behave as such.
I didn’t call her a B*tch.
I called her ignorant, please explain how she is not ignorant when it comes to gay people?
I called her a moron, please explain how that is not appropriate given my earlier notation that I think she’s behaving childishly and that moron can be attributed to people who are mentally between the ages of 8 and twelve?
Please explain how it’s not appropriate to call someone ignorant and a moron when they clearly display these characteristics enthusiastically?
Not that I should have to explain myself to you, but apparently you guys will give bigots the benefit of the doubt, but not me. Interesting.
And no, David R,
The South goes as far west as texas and as far north as Oklahoma.
here’s a map from StateMaster.com
http://www.statemaster.com/region/south
had a duplicate for some reason.
It’s not “us guys” it’s me. I don’t really care what you think of Rep. Kern, I think her talk was disgusting. I’ve already explained what I think about your comments with regard to people from the South. I’m not defending her or them, only calling out what I think was a negative thing to say. Try this:
I’m sorry, I see the “most of them aren’t” as patronizing and the comment as perpetuating a stereotype. You obviously feel otherwise, so let’s agree to disagree.
Sure, I’ll agree to disagree, but first I just have to say this.
How dare you put tones in my sentences that I did not put there.
Sure, “most of them aren’t” COULD be patronizing, but this is the internet, there is no inflection, no body language to go by.
In other words, YOU layered that into my words, I didn’t put it there, you read between lines I didn’t write and found a hidden meaning.
That speaks volumes about how you communicate, how many other assumptions do you make about people you don’t know? How many other times do you layer in your own bias to what other people are trying to tell you?
David, you’re a smart guy and a great writer (and no, that was sincere, in case you were wondering) but you have got to learn to stop shooting first and asking questions later.
This forum, and others like it is supposed to be a bridge of sorts between gays and our opponents, don’t be so busy trying to connect to the opponents that you burn up the gay side of the bridge.
Now who is reading intent that is not there?
Jason, I don’t consider your statement to have anything to do with “the gay side of the bridge.” And I would have, and have, responded the same way to someone 10 years ago – to anyone. I just think the statement had bigoted overtones, regardless of how you might have meant it. Perhaps you could just think before making similar statements in the future, instead of showing moral outrage at my comments over it.
Boo,
“We’ve learned that Benjamin Paige is a rather prominent up-and-coming member of Denver’s gay community”
I’m very confused. This guy wrote that awful piece and the local gay community didn’t hold him or the paper accountable?
You know she has a point. The City Council of Eureka Springs was taken over by homosexual activists. It used to be a resort known for Christian entertainment. When the new council convened, they announced that it would no longer be known as a Christian resort but a city selling peace, relaxation, history and sex.
Jason, I stand by my comments that followed, however looking over my original reaction, it was rather strong and I apologize for that. And on one point you are correct, I need to take more time before I react.
Full disclosure: half my family is from the Deep South.
I’m very confused. This guy wrote that awful piece and the local gay community didn’t hold him or the paper accountable?
All’s I know: the article appeared a couple days ago. The paper issued a press release, appearing on their website, where the publisher apologized, but made no mention of the author. Then today the apology press release disappeared from their website. If there was local reaction, I haven’t seen it, but I didn’t really have a chance to look. The only demands for accountability that I’ve seen have come from trans people, but like I said, haven’t really looked too widely.
And as far as Lynn Conway’s editorial comments, I have no opinion cause I don’t really know if he’s considered “up and coming” or not.
And as of right now, Benjamin Paige is still listed on the site as the guy who does the “Homo-razzi” feature where this appeared.
If you have the URLs of before it was cleansed, send them to me at david@exgaywatch.com.
Charles do you have, like, a source for that? That the city council of Eureka Springs wants the city to sell sex?
Been there, it’s a beautiful place, long before the “homo activists” took over, and I have trouble believing that’s what they said.
Charles said:
Well thank you Charles, for helping to provide another piece of the puzzle. It would appear Rep. Kern got at least some of her information from an anti-gay AFA (is that redundant?) video named “They’re Coming To Your Town.” The line attributed to the council is so absurd it is being debated over at the urban legend busting site Snopes. The video suggests that that many areas of the country are being “taken over” by gays and lesbians, very similar to what Rep. Kern said in the second half her speech above.
While Eureka Springs does look like a nice place to visit for just about anyone (even UFO enthusiasts apparently), there certainly is no dearth of Christian references on their website (31) as opposed to (3) gay. And that aside, I would reject the false dichotomy implied, mainly that one can either be gay or Christian, but not both.
So do you have a reference to prove this alleged statement by the council, Charles? Even assuming they did, I prefer it to the one made above.
oh….my goodness. i will see if i can get some “inside” scoopage on this person from my cuz, one of the DEMOCRAT reps. here…
it’s sad that he has to sit in the room with this woman every day….
Here in OK, by the way, our elementary school textbooks call us a Southwestern state.
OH….and it’s also worth mentioning that we do have one openly gay (Democrat) representative in the OK house…also from an OKC district…I’d love to get his reaction to this…
Her whole argument pivots on her religion. If she is so concerned about gays taking over the country, as an Orthodox Catholic I am concerned about Fundamental Evangelicals taking over politics. They want to revert back to a time when the Church and State were one, and if anyone picks up a history book they will find that that kind of combination is lethal. The RCC proved it, John Calvin proved it, Luther proved it, and the list goes on. What an insult to the founding fathers of this country who purposely divided Church and State so that we could be free to worship as we please and not have the Church dictate the function of the State.
According to those Fundamentalist, isn’t the Anti-Christ supposed to be a religious and political leader combined anyway? I mean, that’s what the flack is about the popes, they are suppose to be the anti-Christs according to the Fundamentalists. So why on God’s green earth would they want to have Church and State mixed? Wouldn’t that create their own anti-Christ
The sad thing is that, as a politician, she should be educated and unbiased, and she obviously is neither. I don’t care if she is from Oklahoma or New York City, ignorance knows no boundaries.
If a Democracy is going to work we have to have educated people who elect educated people. Ignorant people live in fear of the unknown, and it only breeds ignorance. But what is sad is when politicians are uneducated and ignorant as well. Add bigotry to the mix and you’ve got disaster.
First of all, Islam is NOT a threat to our country, and I am shocked that such a statement would be said by an elected official.
Second, if this woman really thinks homosexuality is more of a threat than terrorism, than she needs to go visit the ruins of 9/11 in New York.
Sally Kerns’ thoughts are ANTI-AMERICAN and ANTI-CHRISTIAN.
Y’all,
I know we want to be careful not to insult folks when we try to defend ourselves, but let’s not get bogged down by infighting.
The fact is that this Representative is using bad studies to malign the gay community and then hiding behind her religious beliefs.
The sad thing is that she does not even know that the data she cites (that she claims is indisputably true) is untrue propaganda.
And on that note, thank you ex-gay watch for being one of the only few places to catch on to the fact that she cited Paul Cameronesque type lies in her speech and to say so.
Obviously, David, my statement was verbatim from City Council member Joyce Zeller included in the link you posted.
…thanks
Yes. And an elected politician should be educated enough to know that. Before she starts shootin’ off her mouth she should know where here sources are and if they are accurate or not.
And as a Christian she should do the same.
I think that she would have said the same thing in a bigger venue. She seemed pretty comfortable with the subject and her opinions. Also, the way she kept rattling things off makes me think this is one of her canned spiels. I would bet she has made this same speech many times.
I wouldn’t advise anyone to hold their breath waiting for an apology from this politician either.
I totally agree, john.
I would like to see someone ask her where she received her information.
The Apostle Paul wrote in
1 Timothy 1:8-11 & 2 Timothy 4:2-4
But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
One of the messages the Apostle Paul is saying in these verses: Laws that forbid among other things, lying, murder, kidnapping, and homosexuality are not only “good” and “sound doctrine” they are also according “to the glorious gospel of the blessed God”. One reason that makes these verses vitally important to our time is the definitions of a couple words. The Greek word “whoremonger”, is pornos. It means a male prostitute, (Zodiates, 4205). The other phrase, “them that defile themselves with mankind”, is one Greek compound word. It is arsenokoites , and it means, “a man that lies in bed with another man”, (Zodiates, 733); these definitions are important to our present time in light of the warning the Apostle Paul writes in his second epistle to Timothy. In 2 Timothy 4:2-4 he writes:
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
The Apostle Paul warns that the time was coming when people would no longer believe sound doctrine, i.e. laws that forbid homosexuality, but they would gather around and listen to teachers who would accommodate their lusts. There are denominations out there that proclaim homosexuality to be simply one of the varied orientations that make up human sexuality. There are people who flock to these teachers to have their ears tickled. They turn away from the truth of the word of God concerning homosexuality and turn to listen to myths rather than God’s Word.
Jesus is LORD!
Don
Don, you’re welcome to comment constructively here, but your lengthy, off-topic sermonizing is not welcome.
Boo, it is almost out of topic, but many thanks for highlighting the article here. What Benjamin Paige said is really out. I wished I had the opportunity to affirm my identity and had the support of my parents at age 7.
It is mind boggling why he went into transphobic mode in a LGBT mag. IMHO, it could be because of the recent spat within the T community in regards to transsexuals and transgenders. It may also be an attempt to gain points for an alliance with the religious right groups.
*sigh* Sadly, I’m an Oklahoman. I can’t believe we let a woman like this have any sort of political power. She’s a troll of the worst kind.
Correct me if I’m wrong Dave, but Don’s comment didn’t seem out of line or any longer than some other comments on this thread. Unless “sermonizing”, i.e. using scripture to help make a point (in this case to defend Rep. Kern), is not allowed on this site?
Just to be clear, opining that his post was on-topic does not necessarily subscribe me to the point(s) made in it.
If there was a defence of Rep Kern in there, I missed it. It didn’t make reference to even a single point from the post or the rest of the discussion. It had all the hallmarks of a hit-and-run cut-and-paste job, something sadly familiar from people who have no desire to engage in the content of the thread, but simply wish to preach.
If I overlooked some evidence in Don’s post that he was sincerely engaging in the discussion, I’m open to correction.
Charles said:
It may not have been terribly long, but then it wasn’t a comment either – it was simply large blocks of scripture formed into a speech. While this is an open forum, we do require that comments actually be written by the commenter to address an issue. Unless the Apostle Paul is typing on the other end of Don’s keyboard, this one doesn’t qualify.
In addition, nothing in scripture could justify Rep. Kern’s comments because she was quoting bogus research with false conclusions – scripture is rather harsh about lies as well. And unless one sees references in Revelation about Pittsburgh being taken over by “the homosexuals” then I really don’t see how any of this defends Kern at all.
I have to admit, I’m rather puzzled that Don appears to be writing what can only be called rather simplistic “mini-position papers” filled with his own take on scripture and then selling them. He has every right to do so, but from my early days in the Church to now, I’ve just never seen someone do that. They include titles like “The Lying Vanity of Homosexual Orientation” and “Armageddon and the Palestinian State.” Nice hobby, Don.
Charles said:
So you have no verified source for the comment then (other than fund raising efforts by a vile organization)? And if it was said, do you know the context? Was it a joke? Satire? Lament?
More importantly, do you really want to know or is it more convenient to just repeat it on websites like XGW until everyone thinks it is true?
I used to hear that kind of junk all the time in various churches I went to. I would invite Rep. Kerns to consider that God is love and perfect love casts out all fear. Her statements are full of fear. That’s what bigotry of all types really comes down to.
But of course, politicians will say anything to get re-elected.
I went through an ex-gay ministry years back, and I am still dealing with some of the issues I had afterwards. It’s so hard to find comfort in faith of any sort when people say things like this. Do these people honestly believe that their sort of faith is attractive to those who don’t already believe it?
From the AFA video “They’re Coming To Your Town.”
@13:15
I included that last part just to show that their main complaint about this portion seems to be about some possible promotion of “sex,” but not any specific “gay sex” promotion. That part of their complaint may be valid, I haven’t had time to research this, but the propaganda part seems to be that they’re lumping this in with their disdain for the fact that they passed a DP registry to being with.
I couldn’t find the article they cited above, even on the newspaper’s website, but the first article link that came up from that newspaper was the main thrust of this video’s complaint:
Proposed Eureka Springs Ordinance Causes Uproar
April 26, 2007
It’s a short article, but I loved this quote:
So that’s as much as I’ve got, but this quote from Jeff Johnson above still needs to be verified or refuted:
Hey speaking of Don’s comments here, maybe you should create a topic discussing the ramifications of fundamentalists using the Bible to abuse and denigrate others all in the name of Christ like Don has done. Isn’t it this extremist fundamentalist interpretation of scripture one of the major roots of hate, division and the real danger to our diverse and pluralistic society? Do we have any Greek scholars here to refute Don’s attempts at fear-mongering using the words of Paul? The thing that I detest about Fundamentalists is that they are so brainwashed with their fear based indoctrination (as taught and enforced by their ministers) that they don’t see any other possibilities than what they believe is absolute. Even if there were countless other studies that showed that Paul never did mean “homosexuality” in and of itself (the orientation) or the committed relationship between two people of the same gender; they will not be swayed to see the difference. A person convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. Their belief system is toxic and creates dis-ease and immense stupidity/ignorance in our society. These kinds of interpretations of Pauline doctrine are not only damaging to our society but they are divisive and downright wrong. It is hurtful at best and deeply damaging to millions of people at worst through injustice, inequality, shame and even through suicide.
I can bet you that the Oklahoma Representative in this excellent YouTube article has been indoctrinated into this kind of belief system, otherwise she would never use these shameful and toxic words like “gay lifestyle”, etc. Shame on her. If I had been there I would have walked out and would have encouraged all of those who would go with me to do the same.
Why do those wierd symbols appear on top of my “gay sex?”
“Do we have any Greek scholars here to refute Don’s attempts at fear-mongering using the words of Paul?”
We don’t really need them. don’s claims have been made many times, in all of their tiresome length. No one really knows that these words mean. Pornos certainly does not mean ‘male prostitute’, and if it does, then we are not talking about homosexuality at all, but prostitution. Likewise, “arsenokoi(tes)” literally means ‘male bed’ and not “a man who lies in bed with another man.’ “Malakoi”, also in Paul, means, apparently, ‘soft’. Not effeminate, not homosexual, but SOFT
And on and on and on and on. Paul’s words are condemnations of homosex ONLY if you believe out the outset that they are. Quoting myself from and earlier post:
“The bible may or may not condemn some aspects of gay sex. It is amazing to me how unclear G manages to be on the subject, when he is so clear on so many other subjects. So coy: “sleep the sleep of a woman” (literally from Leviticus– do you know what it means? I don’t.) to “abusers of themselves with mankind” (KJV on words which we really don’t know the meaning of)– though apparently, Biblical scholar Don does.
Don, If it were as important to G as it is to you, he would have said: “two men or two women together shall not have sex in and way, shape, or form. They will not be naked together and touching each others’ skin. They certainly will not be bumping nasties. Penis into vagina, that’s it. And you shouldn’t enjoy it too much.”
Now, that is clarity befitting the creator of the universe. “Sleep the sleep of a woman”? Your guess is as good as mine. He was pretty clear about adultery. “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” That’s clear, but the opposition to adultery is usually limited to “Tsk Tsk” and not “let’s pass constitutional amendments to make sure your family isn’t recognized as one and your kids don’t get health insurance.”
Sorry, Don. If you are oging to pass yourself off as a scholar, at leats have the courtesy to BE one.
Oh, Emproph, those symbols are also on top of MY gay sex. I think it means, y’know, we’re one of THEM, y’know, Gay. Oooooooooooooh, Daddy!
It’s part of a plugin I am trying that is supposed to change the vowels in certain keywords to prevent the site from getting categorized incorrectly. Our discussions involve certain terms that could categorize us as an XXX site, which is not good for work filters, etc. It looks like the dictionary file might be a little too extensive and I’m not sure I like it anyway. I’ll try to tweak it or just remove it.
Oh thank goodness, and here I thought I was having symbolic gay sex alone.
“Our discussions involve certain terms that could categorize us as an XXX site, which is not good for work filters, etc.”
Understood. However, does this filter also categorize the term “straight sex” as an XXX site?
Because that almost brings it back to topic. Kern is attemping to sexualize all things gay, to the exclusion of all things straight that may also be sexual.
And her “education” bill, is trying to suppress one message of this over another. And at this point, clearly based on supremacist religious bias.
This is a pragmatic response – we have no control over the systems used to filter sites at various organizations. And actually, I don’t think “gay” should be in the list – it came with the plugin. But if you think about it, you will recall other terms that are much less vague concerning categorization
We are just trying to help make sure that anyone who wants to read and comment on XGW can do so without needless barriers. I’m not certain this is going to help, but we are giving it a try.
I don’t need to know what people say behind closed doors. I already know. I read comments they leave on blogs, newspaper articles, etc.
The overwhelming majority is anti-gay. Of those, most leave bible passages which they have just interpreted to support their viewpoint.
Of course those people don’t exactly exude the compassion of their supposed religion – just hate. Funny how something that has NO effect on them (unless their kids end up being gay) seems to get them so riled up.
When heterosexuals are model citizens with divorce rate of less than 10% (rather than the 53% they currently have), don’t abuse, neglect or kill their children, commit adultery, I might consider the
‘sanctity of marriage’ argument they shove down our throats.
But since that is not the case, I don’t quite see why they really care what 5% of the population is doing other than paying taxes so the heterosexual’s children can be educated, provided with police and fire protection and have their roads paved and maintained.
I think there are other more important issues that heterosexuals should focus on rather than fighting people who love someone of the same sex.
What destroys societies is ignorance. The Roman empire accepted homosexuality from the previous culture of the Greeks, the Etruscans, the Minoans, and the empires previous to them. These empires lasted thousands of years not decades.Ignorance of pollution (lead tainted water plumbing). Greed that extended territory beyond the bounds of ability to control. And the alienation and persecution of minorities led to the downfall of empires. All forms of ignorance. It is appalling that a person like this has achieved a position of leadership in this country at any level. I Have never in 60 years been threatened in any way by a person who is gay. The only people who I would consider consistent with native born terrorists have been primarily white, prejudiced, and ignorant of the fact that the freedoms of our government are meant for everyone!
Just because Rep Sally Kern speaks out against homosexuality does not mean she is speaking hate. All people live lives that are imperfect. This includes heterosexuals and homosexuals. God speaks clearly against avoiding a life of sin in the bible and life choices that should avoided, including homosexuality. People, wake up and realize that just because someone who believes the bible and speaks against a lifestyle does not make them hateful. They are simply suggesting that people make a conscious choice to obey God in their living. I am thankful that people are finally speaking a voice and taking a stand against the homosexual community’s agenda of indoctrinating our society that the lifestyle is good, and suggesting that anyone who does not agree is filled with hate. The reality is that a life lived filled in sin is destructive and against Gods commands regardless of whether the foolish agree or not. Even if you don’t agree with the bible, secular health statistics shows that homosexuality is not a healthy choice. Even Matt Foreman, executive director for the national gay and lesbian task force labeled HIV as a gay disease in a speech on Feb 14, 2008. This as an acknowledgment that the lifestyle is bringing death to it’s people.
First of all, thank you for bringing this video to our attention. I called Represenative Kern’s office this morning, and left a rather lengthy voicemail. I then followed up with the following email:
Representative Kern,
People like you are the reason that there is a higher rate of suicide among gay and lesbian people. People like you are the reason children need gay straight alliances at school in the first place. People like you are giving the Christian faith a very bad reputation.
Do you honestly believe that people “choose” to be gay, Sally? Are you truly that ignorant? Why would anybody choose to be a second class citizen, and to be the victims of bigots such as yourself? Gay people are WORSE than AlQueada???? Most gay people I have met are actually very nice people. I have yet to read a story about a gay person strapping on a suicide belt, so that he can blow up a bunch of straight people. To my knowledge, no gay person has ever beat up a straight person, tied him to a fence post, and left him to die in the cold. I haven’t heard of a gay person trying to blow up a straight bar…
If you really believe people “choose” to be gay, you most also admit that you “chose” to be straight. Are we all born bisexual, then one day choose to turn off the physical and sexual attractions towards one sex and focus on the other sex? Is that how it worked for you, Sally? Do you remember the day you chose to be straight? I’m sure that would make for interesting conversation on the House floor.
I can’t speak for you, but I was not born bisexual. I was not born heterosexual. I am what God made me, and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I hope you will consider issuing an apology for the ridiculous comments you made. I will say a prayer for you, and hope that one day you can try to treat all Americans with respect and dignity. The last word in our Pledge of Allegiance is “All”, not “Heterosexuals”.
Sincerely,
Billy Slocumb
I don’t know why people are shocked at her comments. She believes in Bible and she is not being hypocrite about it.
My concern is when will we grow out of these religions?