Response to Dr. Patrick M. Chapman’s Critique of ‘Ex-Gays’ – Part 1
Response to Part 1 of Dr. Patrick M. Chapman’s Review of “Ex-Gays”, posted on Ex-Gay Watch, November, 2007, by Stanton L. Jones and Mark A. Yarhouse.
The greatest compliment that be paid to any work of scholarship is for it to receive serious consideration and generate discussion. Thus, we are pleased to see the review by Dr. Chapman of our book, Ex-gays?: A Longitudinal Study of Religiously Mediated Change in Sexual Orientation. Chapman raises important issues, but in the end, we must conclude that his review fails to establish the serious flaws he claims in our study.
Response to “Part 1: Introduction and Methods”
We applaud Chapman for correctly summarizing the main questions we examined in the study, for a reasonable brief summary of the study’s methodology, and particularly for granting us some credulity in saying that “They claim the ex-gay organization [Exodus] did not exert any control or power over their results and conclusions (p. 127), and there is currently no reason to believe otherwise.” Minor points of disagreement with his summary and commentary include the following:
- Our interest was not triggered by “the conflicting views of science [versus the claims of our] conservative Christian acquaintances;” but rather by the conflict between a) the prevailing and hardening consensus of mental health opinion that change is utterly impossible, based on a very mixed scientific record, versus b) the actual scientific record and the anecdotal claims of people we know. Regarding the actual scientific record, note for instance the recent publication by a respected scholar of a report of some notable plasticity in “female same-sex sexuality” in a minority of women followed in a longitudinal study (Lisa Diamond, Perspectives on Psychological Science, 2(#2), 142-161. Diamond rightly concludes “the more we learn, the more we do not understand,” p. 142. She also, it must be said, would not regard her findings as providing support for change as understood in this study, but on the other hand, her results do challenge a simple “sexual orientation is utterly and always unchangeable” stance). And Chapman in his review gives weight to the anecdotes of people he knows, and his own story, so once again we raise the question why only certain anecdotes are privileged as worthy of consideration in this debate.
- Chapman implicitly dismisses “behavior modification” as trivial, but we see insufficient justification to take this step. Some of our subjects experienced more than mere behavior modification, and even behavior modification can be very meaningful if it empowers a person to live in closer accord with her freely chosen core values.
The core of Chapman’s criticism of the study in Part 1 is that our study is somehow not truly prospective. We would agree that if our study is not prospective then it is disingenuous to claim that it is, and the scientific value of the study is considerably weakened. This charge, in other words, is truly significant. Let’s look carefully, then, at the basis for Chapman’s claims. Read more…



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